Who When Where

Do you have the address where Eliza's first daughter was born in 1853?
NOTE: Paradise Place and Elder Walk were near each other at the time.

...but that suggests, I think(?), that the Thomas Murray+Jane Susannah Parsons couple aren't the pair in the 1841 census. That marriage took place in 1826 and that Thomas was a widower. Yes, I think we can safely say that is a different Murray family (the one with Jane Susannah Parsons). You can ru...

Using jonwarrn's latest settlement record(s) find this could be the Ealing marriage for Thomas & Jane:

10 March 1805 - Ealing
Thomas MURREY & Jane POWNEY
Jas SIMMONDS & Sarah POWNEY (looks like the Powney sisters married on the same day)

Where is James in 1851? Have you located him yet?
Also, who are his wife's parents? Where is Eliza in 1841 and 1851? When did she hook up with James?

Where is James Murray in the 1851 census? Has his surname been transcribed incorrectly? Another thing to bear in mind is that James' parents might not have been married when he was born/baptised c1833. As such, James may have been baptised under his mother's name (whatever surname that might be). Al...

Below is the Ancestry UK list for London parish records which may be useful to you, particularly the Earliest Date column. Not all Islington records on Ancestry are from the pre-1837 era. Example : the earliest date for SAINT MARY, HORNSEY RISE: ASHLEY ROAD, ISLINGTON records is from 1861. https://w...

Norfolk Nan wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 15:18 James Murray, who began all this confusion, doesn't have a birth certificate or a baptism. DoB is c1833 in Islington according to all documentation I have for him.

His baptism record may not be online. Aren't Islington parish records with the LMA?

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With jonwarnn's workhouse find above, does this mean we have two different Murray families? The Murry family in Shoreditch/Spitafields, and the one in Islington in 1841? The ages of the Islington family in 1841 are different to the Shoreditch family. And wife Jane Susannah had left that family years...